http://a-albionic.com/topic/31/HOW-DO-WE-RECOGNIZE-LEGITIMATE-CONSPIRACIES- en-us Copyright 2011, Yuku ceco@yuku.com (FeedMaster) webmaster@yuku.com (WebMaster) Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:54:30 GMT Sun, 26 Dec 2010 12:14:32 GMT Kickapps Feeds 1.0 http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 {pics-1.1 "http://www.icra.org/ratingsv02.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (nz 1 vz 1 lz 1 oz 1 cz 1 ) "http://www.rsac.org/ratingsv01.html" l gen true for "http://yuku.com" r (n 0 s 0 v 0 l 0 )) Search Domain q http://yuku.com/search/direct/ http://a-albionic.com/reply/738/HOW-DO-WE-RECOGNIZE-LEGITIMATE-CONSPIRACIES-#reply-738 feeds@yuku.com (BobNemtusak) http://a-albionic.com/reply/738 Sun, 26 Dec 2010 12:14:32 PST http://a-albionic.com/reply/178/HOW-DO-WE-RECOGNIZE-LEGITIMATE-CONSPIRACIES-#reply-178 ernie1241 wrote:

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****Every time when I read your comments (such as above) I always wonder how anything would be different if Lloyd Miller was in charge of everything of importance within our society?? Would Lloyd Miller's "government" operate any differently from the cynical vision he has of current government operations?

You have asked this before. I find the question nonsensical and I've probably never answered.

I certainly can't change human nature so little about the human tendency to conspiracy would change if "I were in charge". I don't advocate dictatorship, so the idea of me "being in charge" makes no sense. I don't think I'd be any better at rooting-out "conspiracies" as a prosecutor or grand legislator than anyone else. . . well, maybe somewhat better.... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LloydMiller) http://a-albionic.com/reply/178 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 01:55:48 PST http://a-albionic.com/reply/165/HOW-DO-WE-RECOGNIZE-LEGITIMATE-CONSPIRACIES-#reply-165
"Legitimate" conspiracy is, I think, a misnomer. Maybe "legitimate conspiracy theories" would make sense. Conspiracies, by definition, are, themselves, not "legitimate."


****Lloyd, while I understand your point, I think you are missing the substantive meaning of my observations. Incidentally, not all conspiracies (by definition) are "not legitimate". If your wife and children "conspire" in secret to arrange for a surprise birthday party for you, or your co-workers "conspire" in secret to celebrate your 20-year anniversary on your job -- there is nothing "illegitimate" about their "conspiracy" to keep you in the dark about their plans.



The above is really, just a linguistic quibble on my part. . . though the focus on "legitimacy" rather than verifiable fact, "best... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ernie1241) http://a-albionic.com/reply/165 Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:56:18 PST http://a-albionic.com/reply/151/HOW-DO-WE-RECOGNIZE-LEGITIMATE-CONSPIRACIES-#reply-151
It is absurd to attempt to prove one element of a comprehensive theory wrong as sufficient to invalidate other elements of the theory or even the validity of the overall thrust of the theory. Calling something a conspiracy (except in the legal sense) is more a characterization of some hidden activity having potentially significant social consequences rather than a question of fact.

A better formulation of the issue would be how to develop ones abductive thinking skills and insight into his own weltanschauung to formulate his own personal view of what is going on. ]]> feeds@yuku.com (Ole Dude) http://a-albionic.com/reply/151 Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:57:04 PST http://a-albionic.com/reply/147/HOW-DO-WE-RECOGNIZE-LEGITIMATE-CONSPIRACIES-#reply-147 ernie1241 wrote:

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I have been discussing this question in another forum, so I thought I would copy and paste my initial message here too for anybody who wants to offer their own ideas...
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HOW DO WE DETERMINE 'LEGITIMATE CONSPIRACIES'??

"Legitimate" conspiracy is, I think, a misnomer. Maybe "legitimate conspiracy theories" would make sense. Conspiracies, by definition, are, themselves, not "legitimate."

The above is really, just a linguistic quibble on my part. . . though the focus on "legitimacy" rather than verifiable fact, "best explanation" of an array of facts (abduction), and testable theory may be a bit telling of the mind set of the writer.

Not mentioned as an indicator of... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (LloydMiller) http://a-albionic.com/reply/147 Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:43:14 PST http://a-albionic.com/topic/31/HOW-DO-WE-RECOGNIZE-LEGITIMATE-CONSPIRACIES- ----------------------------------------------------------------
HOW DO WE DETERMINE 'LEGITIMATE CONSPIRACIES'??

This question is an important and valid one and deserves a serious answer.

The answer, however, is not a simple 1-2-3 type series of statements.

This is NOT an exhaustive discussion about how to recognize when a legitimate conspiracy exists -- just a beginning set of talking points.

First, let's begin at the beginning.

1. By definition, a conspiracy involves two or more people who are working in secret to accomplish some purpose -- usually unlawful or harmful.

2. So the first consideration that needs to be addressed, is HOW (what methods or tools) do we have to penetrate a secret undertaking?

3. What can we learn... ]]> feeds@yuku.com (ernie1241) http://a-albionic.com/topic/31 Tue, 03 Feb 2009 16:54:30 PST