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Posts: 35 Wed, Jan 14, 2009 2:53 PM |
Well, Lloyd, what is your current evaluation of Obama now that he has announced his cabinet and economic/national security teams?
Do the people he has chosen thus far betoken a "radical left" agenda from your perspective?
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Posts: 596 Wed, Jan 14, 2009 6:13 PM |
ernie1241 wrote:There seem to be considerable concern on the left that the Obama appointments are "too centrist", ie. "Clintonesque". In my view, the Clinton Administration was itself far too left. However, Clinton, himself, was committed to Centrism, a "New Democrat. at least as a strategy." On the other hand, he was willing to let his wife impose the "dead hand" of socialism on the medical sector of the economy. Were the Clintonistas "centrist" because of their own tendencies or because of the perceived right/center political climate? The current aura of "crisis", however, may encourage Obama to advocate, or, more likely, allow a far more left/socialist agenda to sail through Congress a la "Roosevelt." I don't have a serious problem with counter-cyclical economic measures to prevent a run on the banks and/or a deep depression. The danger is more and more damaging long term socialist programs that are difficult to reverse. In regard to foreign policy, it will be interesting to see how he handles the Hamas / Israel conflict. Will he join those advocating that Israel absorb constant shelling and missile attack FOREVER without attempting to destroy her enemies? In my opinion, whatever force is necessary to defend a border is justified be it from illegal immigrants or missiles. When Pancho Villa crossed the border into Texas, Gen. Pershing was sent to track him down. . . . The force used should be as DISPROPORTIONATE as necessary to obtain victory. Lloyd Miller, Research Director
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Posts: 35 Sat, Jan 17, 2009 6:48 PM |
I don't think you answered my question, did you? Anybody can cherry pick one or a few items and then describe someone as "left wing" or
"right wing" or "radical" or "centrist" --- but, OVERALL, do you think Obama's appointments betoken a "radical
left" perspective and agenda?
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Posts: 596 Mon, Jan 19, 2009 9:08 PM |
ernie1241 wrote:No, I agree that Obama's appointments are far more centrist than one would have predicted from his past associations and interests. Only time will tell regarding Obama's "true motives" and "agenda." However, I am concerned that he is deadly serious about his green agenda. Apparently, he has appointed a woman to head a global warming committee (or something) from the Socialist Internationale who apparently believes in "shrinking" the Western Economies to "give earth a chance." I think she was included in the Clinton Administration as well, however, to little effect. Give Earth a chance and it will bury you. High energy prices kill. Everything people need requires energy to produce. . . limiting energy via high prices kills off "marginal" people and makes countless others suffer needlessly. "Shrinking the Economy" is MASS MURDER, treason to humanity. Lloyd Miller, Research Director
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Posts: 596 Fri, May 1, 2009 7:54 AM |
As expected, "socialism" is natural to Obama.
Disallows banks to pay back their TARP funds, wanting to maintain control. Suggests US GOVT trading-in preferred stock and loans for common stock. Pure SOCIALISM. Similar things are happening in the auto business. Pure textbook SOCIALISM developing. What would one expect when one elects a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER = ALINSKY BRAND COMMUNIST AGITATOR? Last I heard, Paul Volker was complaining that Obama's economic advisors have yet to meet and that he has absolutely ZERO influence on what Obama is doing. So much for "centrist" advisors, appointees, etc. Lloyd Miller, Research Director
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Posts: 596 Wed, May 6, 2009 7:22 PM |
Illegitimi non Carborundum
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Posts: 596 Wed, May 6, 2009 7:27 PM |
Obama has now threatened Chrysler Bond Holders, who according to law should have first crack at Chrysler assents in bankruptcy court, to accept $.35 on the dollar while "giving" the company to his supporters, the UAW. This is an illegal and corrupt use of his Presidential Powers.
Republicans should now start a drum beat for impeachment. Alternative policy discussion? A waste until the restoration of the rule of law and elimination of Obama's socialist dictatorship! Lloyd Miller, Research Director
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Posts: 596 Thu, May 21, 2009 8:18 AM |
Well! It is now clear that Obama is not only "socialist inclined" as his past and associations clearly portended to to anyone with an ounce of insight, but is committed to acheiving as much socialism as possible in the current "window of crisis" identified by his advisor Rahm Emmanuel.
We are not talking about marginal increases in welfarism and government regulation which "modern liberals" are loath to apply the label of "SOCIALISM." We are talking about GOVERNMENT OWNERSHIP of banking and industry. I wonder? Is Ernie still blind to all this? I wouldn't be surprised as his claimed "libertarianism" tended to exclude the realm of economic activity. However, Obama's refusal to allow the rule of law to take its course in the Chrysler and GM bankruptcies is a violation of even Ernie's understanding of libery, I would think! Even I am surprised by the Hugo Chavez/Peron, tin pot banana Republic type methods that are already in evidence. Disgusting that anyone was taken-in. . . Lloyd Miller, Research Director
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Posts: 596 Thu, Jun 11, 2009 8:52 AM |
LloydMiller wrote: SHAME on the Supreme Court for refusing to review the clear violations of law in the Chrysler and GM bankruptcies! Most likely they are acting from cowardice. The Court is probably afraid of the public outrage that might result from their intervention. Delays at this point could lead to liquidation instead of "political" re-organization which could undermine the "authority" of the Court. However, this is really disgusting, however. I can understand Obama's motive to save the UAW, especially the benefits of the retirees. However, demonizing and SCREWING the secrured bondholders (most of whom are PENSION funds) is totally out of line, a tacctic of a Chavez or Castro. To save the UAW within the law, Obama would have had to pour in enough money to pay-off the bondholders. . . why the big deal? Just an extra trip to the printing press. I would add, as a personal aside, that I BENEFIT in the short run the Obama bail-out of the UAW as I very frequently work for UAW retirees in the Detroit area. Detroit would suffer and incredible blow if the retirees lost their pensions in bankruptcy. However, that is what the law calls for. . . AND SHOULD HAPPEN. In the long run, the auto companies cannot survive the "legacy" costs of pensions/benefits they can no longer afford. They ALSO cannot afford on-going UAW power as propped-up by the pro-Union laws passed under Franklin Roosevelt which Obama plans to intensify. As soon as the auto companies start making money again (if ever), the UAW will confiscate most of the profits, keeping the auto companies under-capitalized in perpetuity. The answer is simple, but not forthcoming any time soon: repeal laws that violate property rights, making Corporations the hostages of big unions. Lloyd Miller, Research Director
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Thu, Dec 24, 2009 11:00 PM
ernie1241 wrote:
Well, Lloyd, what is your current evaluation of Obama now that he has announced his cabinet and economic/national security teams? Do the people he has chosen thus far betoken a "radical left" agenda from your perspective?
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